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Jac
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PostPosted: Wed Sep 02, 2009 3:40 pm    Post subject: Davis Cup Reply with quote

As expected Boggo is not in the team. I'm pretty sure Alex already knew that despite picking up the best results of the Brits over the summer (bar Andy of course) he would not be in line for a spot on the team, so hopefully he wont be too disapointed and can focus on rasing his singles ranking for the rest of the year - without having to worry about any media fallout after the tie etc.

At the end of the USO he will lose his last batch of points, which will probably drop him down to around 260, but he will then have a free run so if he can manage to win a challenger, or at least go deep in several then i'd expect him to finish the year well inside the top 200. hopefully he will get some kind draws, not getting too many seeds 1st rd etc.  

His next event will be St Remy challenger next week and after that his plan is to enter the Metz ATP qualies.


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PostPosted: Thu Sep 03, 2009 2:50 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

How the hell are Ross Hutchins, Ken Skupski, James Ward, Josh Goodall and Dan Evans in the team ahead of boggo? Lloyd needs to wake up and give boggo a much needed boost by actually believing in him! He is clearly better than all of the players in the squad (except andy)

Sort yourself out Lloyd
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PostPosted: Fri Sep 04, 2009 9:05 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Unfortunately Boggo has got too much 'previous' in DC.

Realistically the Polish team (and the Ukrainian team) are weaker overall than any Boggo has played against in the past however his loses in the DC over the years really mean Lloyd has too much to lose by picking him.

Lloyd was criticised  fairly heavily in the press (most of which seem to have an agenda of some kind against Alex) for picking Boggo to face Austria, despite the fact Boggo was in in form player last summer - much like this year - and Lloydy doesn't want that to happen again as i think he rather likes the job.  

i also have a suspicion that Murray doesn't want Alex in the DC team and if that's the case then its highly unlikely that Alex will get a spot. Alex does want to play DC in the future however, but to do that he will probably need to get his singles ranking way up and above the other contenders.

As i said before right now its probably good that Boggo is not in the DC. his singles ranking is low and he needs a good end to the year to move up. with some good results that's a definite possibility and that right now has to be his main priority.
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PostPosted: Mon Sep 07, 2009 4:14 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Do you speak to alex regularly?

I still dont get it though! Lloyd is just being stubborn! It could really be the boost Alex needs if he was to win a davis cup match to give Britain the win! He is young enough to play for many more years at Davis cup! Technically much better than the likes of Ward and Goodall. They might improve but I still think boggo should of had a chance in the last davis cup match when lloyd set up a mini tournament for the Brits to gain a place in the team! Boggo could of proved that he is worthy of a spot!

Has Lloyd even mentioned the reason for not picking Boggo? Not that I can find!

Also why would Murray not want Alex in the team?
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PostPosted: Tue Sep 08, 2009 10:48 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

i speak to Alex fairly regularly, but i don't know exactly what goes on in the team. i got the impression Andy was disappointed with the level of effort he perceived Boggo put into the last tie vs Austria. certianly his comments in the immediate aftermath of the defeat to Austria suggest that.

I'm not sure its down to Lloyd just begin stubborn, but he will be looking at the media who have so much power in the UK, if he were to pick Alex and Alex lost again then he'd be in for a rough ride. With Andy publicly supporting Dan Evans its pretty much case closed on the 2nd singles spot.

As for the play off Alex wasn't invited but he against the idea anyway, to participate would have meant he have missed a challenger (one where he made the QF as it turned out). i am sure he would have done well there, which would also have given Lloyd a problem in regards to selection.

The problem with Alex & the media, in my opinion, is that when he is on court he keeps very clam, keeps his emotions in check, which is taken to mean doesn't care (which isn't true). He also gets himself in good positions but then doesn't close it out. Take for instance the Austria tie he was a set up in both his matches and lost both, Melzer upped his game and against Peya Alex was struggling with a hamstring strain. The 'English' don't seem to like this, they'd prefer someone to go out there who has no chance to win but will scream and shout and lose in straight sets, but at least show they cared in the process.  

i hope there will be more opportunities for Alex in the DC in the future, but really i think he will have to get himself up and playing at a level beyond Evans/Goodall & Ward for that to happen.
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PostPosted: Sat Sep 19, 2009 5:52 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

right. Bogers isn't in the team because A) he seems to lose every time he plays.
B) Britain needs winners on the team, not unlucky omens.
C) His record this year has been a travesty and
D) HE'S JUST NOT VERY GOOD! Boggers is a terrible tennis player with an attitude to match. his Wimbledon record shows this. He cabn't win a game, so we look to players who might actually do something. This is a tie we need to win, and Boggers isn't the player to win it.
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PostPosted: Sat Sep 19, 2009 6:30 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Killerking wrote:
right. Bogers isn't in the team because A) he seems to lose every time he plays.
B) Britain needs winners on the team, not unlucky omens.
C) His record this year has been a travesty and
D) HE'S JUST NOT VERY GOOD! Boggers is a terrible tennis player with an attitude to match. his Wimbledon record shows this. He cabn't win a game, so we look to players who might actually do something. This is a tie we need to win, and Boggers isn't the player to win it.



Yes, but we haven't got any other British "winners" bar Murray, and it's a travesty to see countries like Israel in the semi-finals of the Davis Cup while we lose at home to Poland ( who don't  have any players worth noting).

I would like to see Boggers in the next squad, but this talk of LLoyd being stubborn. HA, maybe when he can acheive something and stop wasting the LTA's money, then he'll be worth a call-up, players like Evans need a chance, Boggers has certainly had his.
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PostPosted: Sat Sep 19, 2009 6:32 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Adam OUFC wrote:
Killerking wrote:
right. Bogers isn't in the team because A) he seems to lose every time he plays.
B) Britain needs winners on the team, not unlucky omens.
C) His record this year has been a travesty and
D) HE'S JUST NOT VERY GOOD! Boggers is a terrible tennis player with an attitude to match. his Wimbledon record shows this. He cabn't win a game, so we look to players who might actually do something. This is a tie we need to win, and Boggers isn't the player to win it.



Yes, but we haven't got any other British "winners" bar Murray, and it's a travesty to see countries like Israel in the semi-finals of the Davis Cup while we lose at home to Poland ( who don't  have any players worth noting).

I would like to see Boggers in the next squad, but this talk of LLoyd being stubborn. HA, maybe when he can acheive something and stop wasting the LTA's money, then he'll be worth a call-up, players like Evans need a chance, Boggers has certainly had his.


too true. i for one want to see eaton back in the team. at least then we'll have two players who can win games at wimbledon.
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PostPosted: Sat Sep 19, 2009 7:16 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Typical british tennis fans! You guys watch wimbledon and that it and then make judgement on all british players
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PostPosted: Sun Sep 20, 2009 12:16 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Killerking wrote:
Adam OUFC wrote:
Killerking wrote:
right. Bogers isn't in the team because A) he seems to lose every time he plays.
B) Britain needs winners on the team, not unlucky omens.
C) His record this year has been a travesty and
D) HE'S JUST NOT VERY GOOD! Boggers is a terrible tennis player with an attitude to match. his Wimbledon record shows this. He cabn't win a game, so we look to players who might actually do something. This is a tie we need to win, and Boggers isn't the player to win it.



Yes, but we haven't got any other British "winners" bar Murray, and it's a travesty to see countries like Israel in the semi-finals of the Davis Cup while we lose at home to Poland ( who don't  have any players worth noting).

I would like to see Boggers in the next squad, but this talk of LLoyd being stubborn. HA, maybe when he can acheive something and stop wasting the LTA's money, then he'll be worth a call-up, players like Evans need a chance, Boggers has certainly had his.


too true. i for one want to see eaton back in the team. at least then we'll have two players who can win games at wimbledon.


I agree with Oggy.. honestly, whilst i think other players deserve a chance, some of the comments here typify the british 1-week a year attitude to tennis. I like Eaton but a win at Wimby and in a dead rubber hardly constitute a great player.. Whilst i'd still pick eaton over evans and ward becos he can raise his game, boggo is still worth a shot in the DC - but he will have to work hard for it by climbing the rankings fast, because lloyd would be risking too much by picking him..
Anyways, it might be good for Alex to experience this sort of isolation from the DC and from LTA's support, because it will toughen him up.
One thing that i can't stand is Murray's absolute influence within the team.. sure the guy's a great tennis player, but regardless of what anyone says, he shouldn't be the one picking the team, and it's clear he is because lloyd doesn't have the guts to upset him...
Keep the faith with Boggo.. he'll come good  Very Happy


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