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oggy
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Well Dan Evans looks like he is going to lose again so Britain lose! Its not wonder Murray gets pissed off at Davis cup. He always seems to win his 2 singles games and then watches as Britians other player loses!
I think Boggo would of beaten both of these Polish players - atleast 1!
Evans just doesnt have the talent of boggo! fact
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Killerking
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| Posted: Sun Sep 20, 2009 8:57 pm Post subject: |
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| oggy wrote: | | Typical british tennis fans! You guys watch wimbledon and that it and then make judgement on all british players |
is that so? forget the fact i watched the grand slams all the way through, and the others whenever they were on tv, i don't think you can say anything. look at it this way, Boggers has had chance after chance, and has failed at every attempt. he's not the right player to carry britain back into the world group in a few years time. what we need is another top 50 player, an actual doubles partnership and for the murray to stay fit. then we can compete against the likes of russia, instead of poland. understand? |
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Killerking
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| Posted: Sun Sep 20, 2009 8:59 pm Post subject: |
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| paulsawyer wrote: | | Killerking wrote: | | Adam OUFC wrote: | | Killerking wrote: | right. Bogers isn't in the team because A) he seems to lose every time he plays.
B) Britain needs winners on the team, not unlucky omens.
C) His record this year has been a travesty and
D) HE'S JUST NOT VERY GOOD! Boggers is a terrible tennis player with an attitude to match. his Wimbledon record shows this. He cabn't win a game, so we look to players who might actually do something. This is a tie we need to win, and Boggers isn't the player to win it. |
Yes, but we haven't got any other British "winners" bar Murray, and it's a travesty to see countries like Israel in the semi-finals of the Davis Cup while we lose at home to Poland ( who don't have any players worth noting).
I would like to see Boggers in the next squad, but this talk of LLoyd being stubborn. HA, maybe when he can acheive something and stop wasting the LTA's money, then he'll be worth a call-up, players like Evans need a chance, Boggers has certainly had his. |
too true. i for one want to see eaton back in the team. at least then we'll have two players who can win games at wimbledon. |
I agree with Oggy.. honestly, whilst i think other players deserve a chance, some of the comments here typify the british 1-week a year attitude to tennis. I like Eaton but a win at Wimby and in a dead rubber hardly constitute a great player.. Whilst i'd still pick eaton over evans and ward becos he can raise his game, boggo is still worth a shot in the DC - but he will have to work hard for it by climbing the rankings fast, because lloyd would be risking too much by picking him..
Anyways, it might be good for Alex to experience this sort of isolation from the DC and from LTA's support, because it will toughen him up.
One thing that i can't stand is Murray's absolute influence within the team.. sure the guy's a great tennis player, but regardless of what anyone says, he shouldn't be the one picking the team, and it's clear he is because lloyd doesn't have the guts to upset him...
Keep the faith with Boggo.. he'll come good  |
he's 25 years old! if he wasn't good a couple of years back, he won't be good now! |
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Adam OUFC
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| Posted: Sun Sep 20, 2009 9:12 pm Post subject: |
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I'm with Killerking, Bogdanovic has had the support some of these other players could only dream of, the LTA gave him Brad Gilbert.
Of course Bogdanovic won't get any better, he hasn't acheived anything and you keep praising, and saying he'll get better, when he's 25, players have usually developed by now.
To make a snap judgement that i only watch Wimbledon, i watch many tennis tournaments, have a vast knowledge of the sport, and have played recreationally and club level, so don't make a snap judgement at me.
Oh and Wimbledons 2 weeks |
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oggy
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| Posted: Sun Sep 20, 2009 11:16 pm Post subject: |
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The comments from some people that Eaton should be in the team because of 1 win at wimbo is what I was on about.
The LTA spent so much on Boggo because they know he has the talent to succeed get it?
Get off the forums if you cant say anything positive about boggo |
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Adam OUFC
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| Posted: Mon Sep 21, 2009 8:43 am Post subject: |
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| oggy wrote: | The comments from some people that Eaton should be in the team because of 1 win at wimbo is what I was on about.
The LTA spent so much on Boggo because they know he has the talent to succeed get it?
Get off the forums if you cant say anything positive about boggo |
Right, so because I think that a career high ranking of 107 isn't value for money of the Lta's money, surely it's not acceptable, why doesn't someone like Josh Goodall get this funding. Apart from one match in '07, Boggo has done nothing, i don't understand the support.
He has been a waste of funding and needs to start fulfilling his "talent". |
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Jac
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| Posted: Mon Sep 21, 2009 9:35 am Post subject: |
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Josh Goodall is what 24, so 1 year younger than Alex with a career high of around 190. I don't think Josh has ever beaten a top 100 player and has only won 1 atp lvl match, and that was over a qualifier. So that a reason if nay why Alex should get more funding. But he doesn't, not any more at any rate. The funding is determined by ranking and i think specific individually set goals.
you might say getting Brad was preferential, but really that was the LTA trying to fix a mess they had made and it was not a good match up, Alex pretty much went backwards under Brad.
in yesterdays match Evans was abysmal. if boggo had put in a display that bad vs a player ranked outside the worlds top 600 it would be all over the press etc Boggo has put in bad displays in the DC, but at least he has done so against decent players. That guys career high rank was only 190!
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Adam OUFC
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| Posted: Mon Sep 21, 2009 11:34 am Post subject: |
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| Jac wrote: | Josh Goodall is what 24, so 1 year younger than Alex with a career high of around 190. I don't think Josh has ever beaten a top 100 player and has only won 1 atp lvl match, and that was over a qualifier. So that a reason if nay why Alex should get more funding. But he doesn't, not any more at any rate. The funding is determined by ranking and i think specific individually set goals.
you might say getting Brad was preferential, but really that was the LTA trying to fix a mess they had made and it was not a good match up, Alex pretty much went backwards under Brad.
in yesterdays match Evans was abysmal. if boggo had put in a display that bad vs a player ranked outside the worlds top 600 it would be all over the press etc Boggo has put in bad displays in the DC, but at least he has done so against decent players. That guys career high rank was only 190! |
Yes but wheres Josh Goodall in the world rankings, exactly, Josh won a tournament this week,whereas Alex rarely makes the second round of any tournament.
Players usually peak before the age of 25, as seen by the lack of "older guys" high in the rankings, and the emergence of young stars (Del Potro, Monfils, Tsonga, Murray etc.)
You all defend "Boggo", supporting him is fine, we all want Brits to success, but it's time to look past him, he is an inept tennis player, and is now below Goodall in the rankings, so why isn't Josh in the Davis cup team. |
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Killerking
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| Posted: Mon Sep 21, 2009 11:40 am Post subject: |
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| Adam OUFC wrote: | | Jac wrote: | Josh Goodall is what 24, so 1 year younger than Alex with a career high of around 190. I don't think Josh has ever beaten a top 100 player and has only won 1 atp lvl match, and that was over a qualifier. So that a reason if nay why Alex should get more funding. But he doesn't, not any more at any rate. The funding is determined by ranking and i think specific individually set goals.
you might say getting Brad was preferential, but really that was the LTA trying to fix a mess they had made and it was not a good match up, Alex pretty much went backwards under Brad.
in yesterdays match Evans was abysmal. if boggo had put in a display that bad vs a player ranked outside the worlds top 600 it would be all over the press etc Boggo has put in bad displays in the DC, but at least he has done so against decent players. That guys career high rank was only 190! |
Yes but wheres Josh Goodall in the world rankings, exactly, Josh won a tournament this week,whereas Alex rarely makes the second round of any tournament.
Players usually peak before the age of 25, as seen by the lack of "older guys" high in the rankings, and the emergence of young stars (Del Potro, Monfils, Tsonga, Murray etc.)
You all defend "Boggo", supporting him is fine, we all want Brits to success, but it's time to look past him, he is an inept tennis player, and is now below Goodall in the rankings, so why isn't Josh in the Davis cup team. |
exactly. when you're given one of the best coaches in the world, you at least try to play well. when boggers plays, he looks passionless. he dosen't look like he wants it as much as he should. take a look at his wimbledon record, or his career record as a whole. then come back and say he should be in the top 40 players in the world. |
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Jac
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| Posted: Mon Sep 21, 2009 12:01 pm Post subject: |
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Josh won a futures event. He did well, he came through qualies. and was fired up after the way he was dropped from the DC team, but he was the top seed. you don't very often see player inside the top 250 at futures.
I don't think Josh has done too much this year at challenger level to be honest. i still expect Alex to end the year as GB no2 (mainly as he has nothing to defend points wise, whilst Ward and Josh do have quite a bit).
as for Alex, he made a decision a while ago not to play futures again (if you look back at his early career he jumped to challenger about as quickly as he could). not sure i 100% agree with that, but it's something he's stuck too.
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